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By Golly
- This call makes you go round and round in circles.
- An annoying way to do a Touch 1/4.
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Cross Flip The Line
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When was the last time you saw a C3 floor execute this call without significant help?
Dancers get just as tired as callers of seeing the same mistakes over and over.
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I like the call and I believe dancers are able to do this with ease.
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Diagonal Box
- awkward, not useful
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a 2x4 formation, they are useful from phantom formations (e.g.,
Split Phantom Waves Diagonal Box) where there aren't any
traffic pattern problems.
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Explode The Diamond
- The name is inconsistent with Explode The Wave and Explode The Line.
Also typically ends in inverted lines which greatly limits how often it's used.
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Fan Concept
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Do we really need this concept anymore?
The Finish Concept does the exact same thing, and is already surreptitiously on
the C1 list via the C1 definitions preface.
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Fan and Finish are not precisely the same thing.
Fan means eliminate the first Swing while Finish
means begin with the second part. Thus I believe that Fan allows the Step To A Wave rule while Finish doesn't.
For example from facing lines one could call Fan Relay The Top, but not Finish Relay The Top.
I'm not sure that this means Fan should be kept, but there is a small difference in the two.
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In Style
- A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
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Rarely used and with good reason! Although I am still in awe of callers
who think that from a squared set,heads star thru - in style, flows.
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It screws one dancer into the floor.
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Kick By
- A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
- Rarely used and seems pretty silly.
- Kick By is an easy call for dancers to learn since it builds on Kick Off.
Rarely do I see dancers make a mistake on Kick By.
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Line To Line
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This call seems merely an example of busy work
for the dancer and doesn't seem to accomplish anything novel for the caller.
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I like this call because it is one that I can fractionalize.
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Magic Diamond Concept and Magic Line | Wave Concept
- Not really a concept; just awkward.
- I like it as is adds some spice to the dance.
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Pitch
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A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
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Rarely used and when it is, it's almost always in situations where it's equivalent
to Latch On, Mirror Latch On, Reset 1/2, Zing, etc. Why not remove it from the list
to make room for other calls?
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Revert
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We don't need both Revert and Reflected, and Revert makes you dizzy.
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Dancers often confuse Reflect and Revert. I think that this should be fixed by
dropping Revert since it tends to cause dancers to go round and round.
(Revert Flip Back -- yuck!) An alternative approach would be to move one of
these concepts (preferably Reflected) to C3A.
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Rip Off
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A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
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Rarely used and difficult for dancers to learn.
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I find Rip Off interesting since there are four possible parts.
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Rotary Circulate
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A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
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Rotates
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Let's eliminate Rotates from columns.
It does not dance well. Of course, neither does Rotate from Lines! I
don't know any dancers who really like Rotates.
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If more callers would call Rotates, the dancers would be able to do it.
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One criteria I use for evaluating a call is: Can I still call a good
dance at that level without it? I rarely have any need to use Rotates.
Let's drop it!
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Sidetrack
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Dancers haven't a clue how to do this call. I want to scream every time
I have to help someone do the Zig-Zag at the beginning of Sidetrack. This occurs
every time I hear this call at a C3 dance.
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Single Concept
- waaaaaay too hard for the level. How many people really understand this? Callers?
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I think we should remove Single from the C3B list. To dance it with any
understanding the way it is now defined you have to understand what a
3x3 is and that is C4.
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I have only one change to suggest - move the Single concept to C4.
I believe that Single is the singlest hardest concept in square dancing, and
consequently, it's a joke that it's on the C3B list.
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This is just too hard. C3B dancers invariably deal with this concept by memorizing
all of the single calls they hear regularly and waiting for cues on the rest.
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I believe that we can not and should not add a call to the list and remove it right away.
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Most people think that Single is too hard for C3. I think that it's the callers who
make it too hard. If callers would learn and call all calls on the list they would
all become easier. I spent the time and energy to learn Triple Boxes Working Together
and Apart and they remove it after one voting. If we remove all the hard calls from
C3 and below, it makes the C4 level be unattainable.
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Trapezoid
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Two-Faced Concept
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I don't believe in this. I don't think Two-Faced Swing Thru is legal,
and I think other calls (e.g. Relay The Top) you can just call without this prefix.
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I do not believe that I have to tell the dancers that it's Two-Faced.
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inappropriate to call a call such as Relay The Top from Two-Faced Lines since
the call starts with an Arm Turn 1/2, which is not the same as a Partner Trade.
We could get into a lot of ambiguous trouble if we assume Arm Turn 1/2 and Partner Trade
are the same. The words 'Two-Faced' are required and necessary to eliminate this
ambiguity. Also, saying the words 'Two-Faced' helps the dancers since it alerts them that something unusual
such as a push cast may occur during the call. Consider Back-to-Back Lines: does anyone
really believe that you can call a Central Spin The Windmill from here without saying
'Two-Faced'? What about calling Central Spin The Windmill from Facing Lines? How do the
dancers know whether to work in their Line or their Box?
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3 By 3 Concept, 4 By 4 Concept
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I use the 4x4 concept with my C3B group. It doesn't involve phantoms
or the weird 3x1 stuff and they seem to handle it ok
(even though they are weak at certain parts of C3B).
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Dancers often confuse these concepts with n-some. Therefore it seems
to me to be a bad idea to have this concept and twosome on the same list.
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Adding 3x3 and 4x4 would make the Single Concept understandable.
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ATC (Chain Thru) (Cross) Nuclear Reaction / Reactivate (and Scatter)
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We seem to have some gaps in the area of ATC Reaction and ATC Chain
Thru. The C3A list shows these two. But somewhere along the line we
start doing ATC Chain Thru Reaction, and it doesn't really appear on
either list. And on C3B we do ATC Nuclear Reaction or ATC Chain Thru
Nuclear Reaction and it ain't there either - but the Reactivate
equivalents are (or at least the non-chain thru version is). This
whole thing is fuzzy right now. So I propose that the following
appear on the C3A list:
- ATC Chain Thru
- ATC (Cross) Reaction (Scoot (Cross) Reaction)
- ATC Chain Thru (Cross) Reaction
- Scoot Chain Thru (Cross) Reaction
And that the following appear on the C3B list:
- ATC (Chain Thru) (Cross) Nuclear Reaction (and Scatter)
- ATC (Chain Thru) (Cross) Reactivate (and Scatter)
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Change Lanes
- Definition: From applicable formations (e.g., Parallel Lines with the Centers in Tandem).
Centers Any Hand Remake & Spread as Outsides Circulate and Crossover Circulate.
- Nice dancing call.
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Chase the Tag
- Definition: From Back-to-Back Couples. Belles U-Turn Back toward the Right; all Vertical Tag The Line.
- Nice dancing call. Easy to learn.
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Criss Cross (N) Steps At A Time
- Definition: From Columns. The first (N) dancers Trail Off, Step forward if necessary, and Bend The Line, as the
Others step ahead to a compact formation and slide nose-to-nose, Trade, & Roll.
- Why not add Criss Cross N Steps at a Time? Cross is there already,
Criss Cross is a trivial extension.
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Cross Cycle (from box)
- Definition: From an applicable 2x2 (e.g., Mini-Wave Box, Facing Couples).
As one movement, Split Recycle & Slither.
- Easy extension. Several callers already consider this C3B.
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Connect The Diamond
- Definition: From a Diamond. Centers Hinge as Points (Diamond) Counter Rotate 1/4 & Roll; all Extend.
- A simple call from diamonds.
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Contour the Line
- Definition: From a Line of 4. Hinge; Box Circulate Twice; Hinge. 4-Part call.
- Nice dancing call. 4-parts allows flexibility.
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Dixie Spin
- Definition: Dixie Style To A Wave; Fan The Top. 2-Part Call.
- The Split version makes a good opening gambit.
- A nice easy call that fits well into modern choreography.
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Echo Concept
- Definition: Do the call with the given concept; then do the call.
- I already use Echo at most C3B dances.
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Kick the Habit
- Definition: From applicable formations (Parallel Lines, Columns, Galaxy, Butterfly, etc).
Outsides Counter Rotate 1/4 as Centers do your part Leaders Kick Off
- Nice dancing call that can be done from many places.
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Lock Em Up
- Definition: From applicable formations (Tidal Wave/2FL or Parallel Waves/2FLs).
Lockit; Hinge; Centers Hinge & Lockit as Outsides Counter Rotate 1/4 & Roll. A 4-Part Call.
- Nice dancing call. 4-parts allows lots of flexibility.
- This is a nice multipart call that flows particularly well after rally and
tag the top which are on the C3 lists. Since it has well defined parts,
it can be used with initially, finish etc.
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Phantom setups (e.g., Boxes, Diamonds, 1/4 Tag)
- At C3A we have Split Phantom Lines|Waves|Columns. At C3B we have Split
Phantom Boxes. We also have Phantom Lines|Waves|Columns. I think we
should add Phantom Boxes to the C3B list as well. After all, shape
changing Phantom Line|Wave|Column calls can end in a Phantom Box setup!
Come to think of it, they can end in Phantom Diamond, Phantom Single
Quarter Tag, etc. Why not extend the C3B list to simply include Split
Phantom Formation, and Phantom Formation?
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Reverse Cut | Flip The "Z"
- Definition: From a "Z". Centers (who must be in a Mini-Wave with each other)
do a Trade & Spread (for Reverse Cut) or Flip Away from each other (for Reverse
Flip) as the Others do a "Z" Circulate.
- I would like to see Reverse Cut/Flip the Z added to C3B.
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Shifty Concept
- Definition: Finish the given call; then do the first part of the call.
- This will add variety to the program. It requires that dancers be aware of
definitions which reinforces the skill they are currently using for the random concept.
- Some callers use Shift N. Why add something to the list for which there
isn't even agreement on the name?
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Stack the Wheel
- Definition: From a One-Faced or Two-Faced Line. Couples Hinge; (individually) Roll. 2-Part call.
- Nice dancing call.
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Triple Columns Working Right | Left
- C3B has Triple Lines | Waves Working Forward | Backward. I think we
should officially add Triple Columns Working Left|Right and Triple Boxes
Working Left|Right|Forward|Backward. These are already in use by some
callers, and, Triple Lines|Waves Working Forward|Backward
shape changing calls can end in Triple Columns or Triple Boxes. It
would make sense to be able to continue using Triple Working from these
formations.
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Walk Out to a Column
- Definition: From Parallel Waves. Trailing Centers do two Phantom Columns Circulate;
Leaders do a Once Removed Single Wheel then Press Ahead (to become Centers in Columns);
Trailing Ends do a Circulate then Fold. Ends in Columns.
- Nice dancing call.
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Walk the Plank | (anything) the Plank
- Definition (Walk The Plank): From Columns. Circulate; Centers Walk & Dodge as Ends do a Leaders Run.
- Nice dancing call. 2-part call.
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Yo-Yo Concept
- Definition: Do the given call but replace the first Arm Turn 1/2 with an Arm Turn 3/4.
- Yo-Yo should be added somewhere. My feeling is that dancers will have a
tendency to confuse Yo-Yo and Fan and therefore they should be kept on
different levels. Thus if Fan is moved to C3A then Yo-Yo should be on C3B.
However if Fan is kept at C3B (or better yet, moved to C2), then
Yo-Yo should be on C3A.
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Cross Extend
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Definition: From a Single 1/4 Tag, Mini-Wave Box or applicable T-Bone Box. As one movement, Extend and
those ending in a Mini-Wave slide nose-to-nose.
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Cross Follow Thru
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Definition: From a Single 1/4 Tag, Mini-Wave Box or applicable T-Bone Box. Leaders (in a Box) 1/2 Box Circulate
as the Others Cross Extend & Arm Turn 1/4. Cross Follow Thru is the same as Follow Thru except use the inconvenient hand.
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more elegant callwise.
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1/4 Tag formation. Being able to do a Cross Follow Thru from two different formations makes
for interesting choreography a la Cross Follow Thru Twice or 1/2 Crazy Cross Follow Thru when one
of the instances starts from a 1/4 Tag, and the other from a Mini-Wave Box.
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Cross Wind The Bobbin
- Definition: Same as Wind The Bobbin except Leaders Trail Off (1/2 Cross Zoom) instead of Peel Off.
- Wind the Bobbin should include the (Cross) variation for completeness.
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like they did for the recent AQS; say "Peel Off".
I don't care about "Criss Cross" one way or the other.
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Quadruple formation
- Definition: Quadruple (formation) describes four adjacent formations consisting of phantoms and real dancers. Quadruple
(formation) is similar to Triple (formation) except that there are four formations instead of three.
- Dancers already know triple formations from C2 and split phantom lines and columns are already on this list.
So this seems to be a pretty simple addition. In fact, I've heard this a lot at C3A dances already.
- We should add Quadruple Boxes (and Waves, Lines,Diamonds) to C3B. It is a
shame to say Split Phantom Boxes, Bingo when Quadruple Box Bingo is a shorter phrase and
would better focus the dancers attention on the correct dancers.
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Tag Back and Dodge, Tag Chain Thru and Dodge
- Definition: (Any Tagging Call) Back and Dodge. Do the tagging call to the 1/2 tag position; Scoot & Dodge.
- Definition: (Any Tagging Call) Chain Thru and Dodge. Do the tagging call to the 1/2 tag position; Leaders Dodge
as Trailers Scoot Chain Thru.
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Rolling Ripple
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Dropped from C3A. Should we add it to C3B?
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Shove Off
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Dropped from C3A. Should we add it to C3B?
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Track n
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Definition: From Completed Double Pass Thru. Tandem Trade (this is Track 0); Extend to the given fractional tag
position where 1 = 1/4 Tag, 2 = 1/2 Tag, 3 = 3/4 Tag, and 4 = Full Tag.
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I would like to see Track added to some list. I teach it at C1.
I use the "Tandem Trade, Extend " definition that the original author (Dick Bayer) used.
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If we're considering adding Track N, I would rather add "track as a tagging call". I think this is more
useful and no harder to learn. I see Track N as a subset of that (since you can extend to any tag
position) but would also allow Track Reaction, Track Your Leader, etc.
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Transaction
- Definition: From Columns. Transfer And Cast Off 3/4; Chain Reaction.
- This would give us another call that has several beats. It builds on things
that the dancers already know and could be taught with only a minimal amount of effort.
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Twisted Concept
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Definition: Dancers doing a Pass Thru or Pull By movement for the very first part of the call
turn 1/4 while doing the Pass Thru or Pull By movement. This is often equivalent
to doing a Single Circle 1/4 (to face) then complete the call.
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I can buy most of the suggestions but don't think we should bother with
the Twisted Concept, while I agree its a nice danceable idea and do like
it. I got turned off to it when as soon as I called " Twisted ... any call"
as soon as you said it they did the single circle bit and then just did the call.
It's not danced.
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I'd like to see Twisted added somewhere.
It is interesting because of its shape changing nature.
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