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C3A and C3B Voting
 
C3A and C3B Voting
 

The following suggestions for changes to the C3B list are from callers and dancers.
These suggestions do not necessarily reflect my personal opinions.

C3B Deletions 
  • By Golly
    • This call makes you go round and round in circles.
  • Cross Flip The Line
    • When was the last time you saw a C3 floor execute this call without significant help? Dancers get just as tired as callers of seeing the same mistakes over and over.
  • Diagonal Box
    • awkward, not useful
  • Explode The Diamond
    • The name is inconsistent with explode the wave and explode the line. Also typically ends in inverted lines which greatly limits how often it's used.
  • Instyle
    • A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
    • Rarely used and with good reason! Although I am still in awe of callers who think that from a squared set,heads star thru - in style, flows.
  • Kick By (n)
    • A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
    • Rarely used and seems pretty silly.
  • Line To Line
    • This call seems merely an example of busy work for the dancer and doesn't seem to accomplish anything novel for the caller.
  • Magic Diamond Concept, Magic Line | Wave Concept
    • Not really a concept; just awkward
  • Pitch
    • A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
    • Rarely used and when it is, it's almost always in situations where it's equivalent to latch on, mirror latch on, reset 1/2, zing etc. Why not remove it from the list to make room for other calls?
  • Revert
    • We don't need both this and reflected, and revert makes you dizzy
    • Dancers often confuse Reflect and Revert. I think that this should be fixed by dropping revert since it tends to cause dancers to go round and round. (Revert flip back -- yuck!) An alternative approach would be to move one of these concepts (presumably reflect) to C3A.
  • Rip Off
    • A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
    • Rarely used and difficult for dancers to learn
  • Rotary Circulate
    • A non-dancing call; awkward and uncomfortable from most or all places.
  • Rotates
    • Let's eliminate Rotates from columns. It does not dance well. Of course, neither does Rotate from Lines! I don't know any dancers who really like Rotates.
  • Sidetrack
    • Dancers haven't a clue how to do this call. I want to scream every time I help someone do the zig zag at the beginning of sidetrack. This occurs every time I hear this call at a C3 dance.
  • Single Concept
    • waaaaaay too hard for the level. How many people really understand this? Callers?
    • I think we should remove Single from the C3B list. To dance it with any understanding the way it is now defined you have to understand what a 3x3 is and that is C4.
    • I have only one change to suggest - move the Single concept to C4. I believe that Single is the singlest hardest concept in square dancing, and consequently, it's a joke that it's on the C3B list.
    • This is just too hard. C3B dancers invariably deal with this concept by memorizing all of the single calls they hear regularly and waiting for cues on the rest.
  • Trapezoid Concept
    • Good grief
  • Two Faced Concept
    • I don't believe in this. I don't think 2 faced Swing thru is legal, and I think other calls (e.g. Relay the top) you can just call without this prefix.

C3B Additions 
  • 3 By 3 Concept, 4 By 4 Concept
    • Definition:
    • I have been using the 4x4 concept with my C3B group. It doesn't involve phantoms or the weird 3x1 stuff and they seem to handle it ok (even though they are weak at certain parts of C3B).
  • ATC (Chain Thru) (Cross) Nuclear Reaction / Reactivate (and Scatter)
    • We seem to have some gaps in the area of ATC Reaction and ATC Chain Thru. The C3A list shows these two. But somewhere along the line we start doing ATC Chain Thru Reaction, and it doesn't really appear on either list. And on C3B we do ATC Nuclear Reaction or ATC Chain Thru Nuclear Reaction and it ain't there either - but the Reactivate equivalents are (or at least the non-chain thru version is). This whole thing is fuzzy right now. So I propose that the following appear on the C3A list:
      • ATC Chain Thru
      • ATC (Cross) Reaction (Scoot (Cross) Reaction)
      • ATC Chain Thru (Cross) Reaction
      • Scoot Chain Thru (Cross) Reaction
      And that the following appear on the C3B list:
      • ATC (Chain Thru) (Cross) Nuclear Reaction (and Scatter)
      • ATC (Chain Thru) (Cross) Reactivate (and Scatter)
  • Change Lanes
    • Definition: From applicable formations (e.g., Parallel Lines with the Centers in Tandem). Centers Any Hand Remake & Spread as Outsides Circulate and Crossover Circulate.
    • Nice dancing call.
  • Chase the Tag
    • Definition: From Back-to-Back Couples. Belles U-Turn Back toward the Right; all Vertical Tag The Line.
    • Nice dancing call. Easy to learn.
  • Common-Spot Concept
    • Definition:
  • Criss Cross (N) Steps At A Time
    • Definition: From Columns. The first (N) dancers Trail Off, Step forward if necessary, and Bend The Line, as the Others step ahead to a compact formation and slide nose-to-nose, Trade, & Roll.
    • Why not add Criss Cross N Steps at a Time? Cross is there already, Criss Cross is a trivial extension.
  • Cross Cycle (from box)
    • Definition: From an applicable 2x2 (e.g., Mini-Wave Box, Facing Couples). As one movement, Split Recycle & Slither.
    • Easy extension. Several callers already consider this C3B.
  • Connect The Diamond
    • Definition: From a Diamond. Centers Hinge as Points (Diamond) Counter Rotate 1/4 & Roll; all Extend.
    • A simple call from diamonds.
  • Contour the Line
    • Definition: From a Line of 4. Hinge; Box Circulate Twice; Hinge. 4-Part call.
    • Nice dancing call. 4-parts allows flexibility.
  • Dixie Spin
    • Definition: Dixie Style To A Wave; Fan The Top. 2-Part Call.
    • Note that the split version makes a good opening gambit.
  • Echo Concept
    • Definition: Do the call with the given concept; then do the call.
  • Kick the Habit
    • Definition: From applicable formations (Parallel Lines, Columns, Galaxy, Butterfly, etc). Outsides Counter Rotate 1/4 as Centers do your part Leaders Kick Off
    • Nice dancing call that can be done from many places.
  • Lock Em Up
    • Definition: From applicable formations (Tidal Wave/2FL or Parallel Waves/2FLs). Lockit; Hinge; Centers Hinge & Lockit as Outsides Counter Rotate 1/4 & Roll. A 4-Part Call.
    • Nice dancing call. 4-parts allows lots of flexibility.
    • This is a nice multipart call that flows particularly well after rally and tag the top which are on the C3 lists. Since it has well defined parts, it can be used with initially, finish etc.
  • Open Up Reaction/Reactivate/Nuclear Reaction
    • Easy extension. Several callers already use this at C3B.
  • Phantom setups
    • At C3A we have Split Phantom Lines|Waves|Columns. At C3B we have Split Phantom Boxes. We also have Phantom Lines|Waves|Columns. I think we should add Phantom Boxes to the C3B list as well. After all, shape changing Phantom Line|Wave|Column calls can end in a Phantom Box setup! Come to think of it, they can end in Phantom Diamond, Phantom Single Quatrter Tag, etc. Why not extend the C3B list to simply include Split Phantom Formation, and Phantom Formation?
  • Reverse Cut | Flip The "Z"
    • Definition: From a "Z". Centers (who must be in a Mini-Wave with each other) do a Trade & Spread (for Reverse Cut) or Flip Away from each other (for Reverse Flip) as the Others do a "Z" Circulate.
    • I would like to see Reverse Cut/Flip the Z added to C3B.
  • Shifty Concept
    • Definition: Finish the given call; then do the first part of the call.
    • This will add variety to the program. It requires that dancers be aware of definitions which reinforces the skill they are currently using for the random concept.
  • Stack the Wheel
    • Definition: From a One-Faced or Two-Faced Line. Couples Hinge; (individual) Roll. 2-Part call.
    • Nice dancing call.
  • Triple Columns Working Right | Left
    • C3B has Triple Lines | Waves Working Forward | Backward. I think we should officially add Triple Columns Working Left|Right and Triple Boxes Working Left|Right|Forward|Backward. These are already in use by some callers, and, Triple Lines|Waves Working Forward|Backward shape changing calls can end in Triple Columns or Triple Boxes. It would make sense to be able to continue using Triple Working from these formations.
  • Walk Out to a Column
    • Definition: From Parallel Waves. Trailing Centers do two Phantom Columns Circulate; Leaders do a Once Removed Single Wheel then Press Ahead (to become Centers in Columns); Trailing Ends do a Circulate then Fold. Ends in Columns.
    • Nice dancing call.
  • Walk the Plank | (anything) the Plank
    • Definition (Walk The Plank): From Columns. Circulate; Centers Walk & Dodge as Ends do a Leaders Run.
    • Nice dancing call.
  • Yo-Yo Concept
    • Definition: Do the given call but replace the first Arm Turn 1/2 with an Arm Turn 3/4.
    • Yo-Yo should be added somewhere. My feeling is that dancers will have a tendency to confuse Yo-Yo and Fan and therefore they should be kept on different levels. Thus if Fan is moved to C3A then Yo-Yo should be on C3B. However if Fan is kept at C3B (or better yet, moved to C2), then Yo-Yo should be on C3A.

C3B Modifications 
  • Split Phantom Setups
    • Change the split phantom boxes to split phantom setups. I already call split phantom diamonds and split phantom 1/4 tags and no one has any trouble with it that I can see.
    • Should change Split Phantom Boxes to Split Phantom formations. This would add things like diamonds and 1/4 tags. Perhaps the fact that the formation should only consist of 4 dancers should be explicitly spelled out.

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