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Call from Screen
 
  1. Call from Screen - How do I set it up?
  2. Callerlab program lists
  3. Calling sequences from a laptop
  4. Changing font color
  5. Click Sound when Selecting Cue Sheet
  6. Create a Dance - How to
  7. Create a Dance - Specifying sequences
  8. Edit Dance - Adding Sequences
  9. File Splitter for MS Word Cue Sheets
  10. Hiding the "not proofread" message
  11. How many frames in a dance
  12. Keyboard mapping
  13. Microsoft Word Document (*.doc, *.docx) problem
  14. Mixing sequences within a frame
  15. Old cue cards
  16. Scroll bars don't work
  17. Sight Call Featuer
  18. Sight Tab
  19. Slow response with function keys
  20. Timer doesn't beep
  21. Timer expiration
  22. Too many frames
  1.  
    Call from Screen - How do I set it up?
     
    How do you set up the "Calling from Screen" option?

    1. Write some sequences and place them in one or more sequence databases.
    2. Create a dance (via Dance | New).
    3. Enter the "Call from Screen" portion of the program (via Dance | Call from Screen).

    ID: 313
      
      
      
  2.  
    Callerlab program lists
     
    How can I load the current CallerLab Dance Program list into CSDS so it appears on the call from screen?

    Yes. Load the list as a 'document'.

    This can be done two ways:

    1. via 'Dance | Edit' -- go to the 'Documents' tab and click on one of the 'Browse' buttons.

    or

    1. via 'Call from Screen' -- select 'Edit | Add document'.

    last modified: 25-May-2011   ID: 644
      
      
      
  3.  
    Calling sequences from a laptop
     
    How do I set up the program to read and call sequences from the laptop?

    1. Write the sequences.
    2. Create a dance.
    3. Call the dance.
      1. From the main menu, select 'Dance' followed by 'Call from screen'.
      2. Select the dance you wish to call and click 'OK'. (This screen may not appear if only one dance is defined).
      3. The dance should now be displayed.
      4. Set the default timer values for the tip and the break. You can also configure the timer to play a '.wav' file when the time elapses. To do so, from the menu, select 'Timer' followed by 'Settings...'
      5. To bring a frame (i.e., pile of sequences) to the foreground, either click within the frame, or press the appropriate function key (e.g., F1 brings the first frame to the foreground).
      6. You can sequence thru the sequences within the frame by pressing F11 and F12.
      7. Within the current frame, the up-arrow, down-arrow, Home, PgUp, PgDn and End keys scroll through the text.
      8. After you have called the sequence, press U to 'use' the sequence. This will move the sequence from the frame and place it in the 'used sequences' frame. To toggle whether or not the program asks for confirmation when you use a sequence, from the menu, select 'Options' and check or uncheck 'Confirm 'use sequence''.
      9. Sequences can also be removed from the dance by pressing R.
      10. If you call a sequence and discover that it has a problem, press P to mark it as having a problem. Later, after you have called the dance, you can go and fix the problem sequences.

    ID: 32
      
      
      
  4.  
    Changing font color
     
    In "Call from Screen", the font that is used to identify function codes (F1, F2, F3, etc...) shows up in white on my system. Is this normal? The problem is that it's extremely difficult to see. Is there an option or configuration mechanism to to change this?

    1. From the CSDS main menu, select 'System | Settings'.
    2. Click on the 'Colors' tab.
    3. Press the 'Change color of shortcut keys' button.
    4. Choose a color and click 'OK'.

    last modified: 25-May-2011   ID: 370
      
      
      
  5.  
    Click Sound when Selecting Cue Sheet
     
    I get an audible "click" sound (like when selecting an html link on a website) when I select the cue sheet (saved as html file) with the "c" key from the "Call From Screen" mode.

    Is there a way to turn this sound off since it can be heard over the speaker at a dance? I checked IE options but don't see anything obvious to me.

    The sound occurs because the cue sheet is an HTML cue sheet, and CSDS imbeds the Internet Explorer to display the cue sheet.

    To turn off the sound (on Win XP):

    1. Goto 'Settings | Control Panel | Sounds and Audio Devices';
    2. Select the 'Sounds' tab;
    3. Find 'Windows Explorer | Complete Navigation';
    4. Set the associated sound to '(None)';
    5. Click the 'Apply' button.

    ID: 592
      
      
      
  6.  
    Create a Dance - How to
     
    How do I display the sequences I've written for calling from the screen like the sample you have?

    To display sequences on the screen, you must

    1. Create and save sequences from the program (i.e., from the main menu, select 'Sequence | New sequence [Graphics]' or 'Sequence | Edit sequence [Graphics]'. There is a small help file on your installation CD entitled something like 'CSDS Getting started.txt' which may help.
    2. Create a dance and specify which sequences are in the dance. Check out the tutorial entitled 'How to Create a Dance'.

    The tutorial is available in two places:

    1. On the web at http://www.ceder.net/csds/help/csds_how_to_create_a_dance.html
    2. or, within CSDS. From the CSDS main menu, select 'Help | HTML Help Index' then select 'Tutorials | How to Create a Dance'.

    ID: 292
      
      
      
  7.  
    Create a Dance - Specifying sequences
     
    I am trying to 'create a dance' from the databases of sequences. I specified the name of the dance and am on the screen with multiple frames.

    I can't figure out how to specify the appropriate sequences for each frame. If I just type a database name, it is happy but says I have no unused sequences. If I type database name - sequence number it complains that it can't open the database database name - sequence number. What is the format to specify sequences to use in a dance? I am sure you showed me this but I can't get it to work now.

    The format for the 'Sequence list' is:

    <databasename>           [must start in column #1]
       <list of sequences>   [starting in any column other than #1]
       <list of seqences>
    <databasename>
       <list of sequences>
    

    For example:

    C4SEQ
       1-20,30,40-
    C4FLOW
       -
    

    This will put sequences 1 thru 20, 30, and 40 and beyond from database C4SEQ and all sequences in database C4FLOW into the dance frame.

    ID: 300
      
      
      
  8.  
    Edit Dance - Adding Sequences
     
    When I edit a dance frame and browse a sequence database for sequences to add to the frame, choosing the "Add All" button only inserts "-" in the dance frame with no sequence numbers. If I select "Add Range" and specify the first and last sequence number (default), it works fine.

    The program is working as designed.

    "-" means ALL.

    A number followed by a dash means that sequence and all following sequences (e.g., "5-" means #5 thru the END).

    A number preceded by a dash means all sequences in the database upto and including the sequence (.e.g, "-17" means the BEGINNING thru #17).

    ID: 516
      
      
      
  9.  
    File Splitter for MS Word Cue Sheets
     
    My cue sheets are in MS Word and I had them set to open on half the screen and they did. Now they open over the whole screen and then I have to reduce them. Tonight I found if I left one open then the next ones came up the right size.

    It sounds like you aren't using the 'Call from Screen' section of CSDS. If this is the case, from the main menu, select 'Dance | Empty Dance'. This will quickly place you in the 'Call from Screen' section. From this screen you have access to the music player and cue sheets.

    Also, you might try converting some of your Word cuesheets to RTF format (in word, just use 'Save As' and select 'Rich Text Format'). These files load quicker in CSDS, and CSDS has a built in viewer.

    I looked into the 'Split File' function for MS Word Documents when CSDS is in 'Call from Screen' mode.

    In 'Call from Screen', if you bring the Word document to the primary window, in the upper right-hand corner of the frame, immediately above the vertical scroll bar's up-arrow, there is a very small horizontal button. This is the 'File Splitter'. Grab it, and drag it downward to split your document.

    ID: 544
      
      
      
  10.  
    Hiding the "not proofread" message
     
    Is there some way I can get rid of "not proofread" written in red at the top of all sequences?

    From the 'Call from Screen' window, select the 'Display' submenu, and un-check the 'Not proofread' menu item.

    ID: 301
      
      
      
  11.  
    How many frames in a dance
     
    how many piles can one have in a dance program?

    A dance may have up to 10 frames ("piles"). If this is not enough, then just create another dance, and you can switch between dances.

    Also, if for some reason you find you must have more than 10 frames in a dance, you can always complain to me, and eventually I might increase that number.

    ID: 410
      
      
      
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    Keyboard mapping
     
    The "U" key on my laptop doesn't work well. Sometimes I have to bang on it a lot to get it to work. This could be a problem for labeling sequences as used. Is CSDS configurable enough to map this function to a different key? I know I can always select it with the mouse, but that could get tiring in a long weekend

    The program is not configurable to map the 'U' key.

    You have some other choices:

    1. Use the 'R' key to 'remove' the sequence from the dance. It works similar to the 'U' key, but doesn't keep track of which sequences were removed.
    2. Use F12 to skip over the sequence, then bang around with the U key after the tip is over to actually move the sequences.
    3. Right-click on the sequence; select 'Move to another frame'; select 'Ctrl+F11: Used sequences'; then click 'OK'.

    ID: 269
      
      
      
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    Microsoft Word Document (*.doc, *.docx) problem
     
    Well, I upgraded my PC to use Office 2010 and started using some .docx word documents to display cue sheets. The problem I am encountering is that CSDS is no longer loading the cue sheet INTO the Cuesheet Tab when I have Call from Screen up. Instead, it says it can't connect to internet and then it opens up a NEW Word Doc window showing the Cue Sheet. Is this some behavior that has been changed by design? If not, is it a bug when working with the new .docx files and word? If I choose a song with a .rtf, txt or from the cuesheet db, I do not have the problem. Is there anything you can change to get the cuesheet to appear in the cuesheet tab?

    The problem is a windows setting, and has nothing to do with the program. (which was what I expected, since I rarely tweak that region).

    To make a long story short, over the years I've had plenty of trouble with MS Word documents in CSDS.

    1. Loading Word documents is slow (compared to RTF, TXT, and HTML) because an instance of word must be instantiated, whereas a RichText control, and a webbrowser are integrated into CSDS. RTF is the preferred format, as over the years as microsoft releases new updates it has often 'broken' how I can control the webbrowser.
    2. A Word document grabs keystrokes from CSDS, when the Word document has focus. This means that you can't use music player short cut keys if the Word document has focus.

    The fix is to tweak the windows file types. Specifically...

    via the Windows File Explorer:

    1. goto Tools | Folder Options | File Types
    2. Select "DOC" then click 'Advanced'.
    3. Uncheck 'Confirm open after download'.
    4. Check 'Browse in same window'.
    5. OK (to save changes)
    Detailed information can be found at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/sharing/OpenDocInIE.html

    So, most likely, when you upgraded Word, it reset the associated file types with their default parameters.

    last modified: 15-May-2016   ID: 719
      
      
      
  14.  
    Mixing sequences within a frame
     
    Can I mix the sequences within one "pile" from different sequence databases

    The 'Call from Screen' window of CSDS allows up to 10 frames ("piles") containing sequences. The sequences within a given frame can be from one or more sequence databases. You can also specify the order of the sequences within the frame.

    ID: 470
      
      
      
  15.  
    Old cue cards
     
    I have written a lot of "cue cards" over the years, and have them saved in files (.RTF format). Can I have CSDS load them, instead of, or along with your sequences?

    In the long term, it is preferable to load your sequences into one or more CSDS sequence databases. You may be able to facilitate this via cut and paste, or depending upon the format of your sequences, you can save your RTF files as TXT and try using the 'Sequence | Import sequences' function of CSDS.

    In the short term, you can create a dance, and load the RTF files as documents in the dance.

    last modified: 14-August-2006   ID: 608
      
      
      
  16.  
    Scroll bars don't work
     
    I noticed that the main sequence window in CSDS has scroll bars, but the scroll bars don't work. The only way I have found to scroll down to the bottom of a card I am calling is to use the arrow keys.

    Would it be possible for you to make those scroll bars work? Or is there some other way to scroll to the bottom of a sequence?

    Most likely the problem is that the 'Enable Drag+Drop to move sequences' option is set.

    1. Go into the settings
      (e.g., from the main menu, select 'System | Settings',
      or, from 'Call from Screen', select 'File | Settings');
    2. Select the 'Call from Screen' tab;
    3. Make sure that 'Enable Drag+Drop to move sequences' is NOT checked;

    The 'Home', 'End', 'PgUp' and 'PgDn' keys can also be used to position yourself within the sequence.

    ID: 275
      
      
      
  17.  
    Sight Call Featuer
     
    In your latest revision, It states a sight calling screen I press ctrl f5 I get nothing. how does it work what am I doing wrong? where is the tab ?etc. Please advise. Using version 1.29.11

    To activate the sight calling feature, you need to go into 'Dance | Edit', the 'Sight Call' tab, and select a 'List'.

    last modified: 01-November-2009   ID: 711
      
      
      
  18.  
    Sight Tab
     
    I am using the current version of CSDS and have just discovered the "sight" tab in the call from screen function. It looks wonderful. I am, however, at a loss as to how to use it. I couldn't find any help file addressing it. Can you give me some hints as to the suggested use.

    1. Edit the dance (e.g., Dance | Edit);
    2. go to the 'Sight call' tab, and select a List (e.g., press the 'A1' button); (also make some other small change, so the dance knows it's been edited - a bug I just found)
    3. Close the dance;
    4. Goto 'Call from Screen';
    5. Press 'Z' (or click on the sight call tab); 10 calls from the list are displayed.
      1. Use the SPACE BAR to shuffle items in the list
      2. To remove an item from the list (i.e., after you've called it), either:
        1. highlight the item via cursor keys, then press Enter, or
        2. click the button in front of the call, or
        3. press the keyboard number key (1 thru 9, or 0)
        The call is removed from the list, and a random call replaces it.
      Below the call list, is a bunch of getouts that you might want to use.

    last modified: 15-May-2016   ID: 739
      
      
      
  19.  
    Slow response with function keys
     
    My computer switchs from sequences to cue sheets to document quickly and effectively if I use the mouse to click on the appropriate screen. However, when I use the function keys it takes a long time to switch from one to the other. Why would this be and what can I do to resolve the problem?

    When switching from a sequence window (F1 thru F10) to a cue sheet (C), a delay could occur if the cue sheet is an HTML or DOC file, as CSDS needs to load the Internet Explorer or MS Word to display the document. DOC files are particularly bad. If your cue sheet is in RTF or TXT format, there should never be a delay. It's possible that the delay might only occur the first time you try to view the cue sheet.

    When switching from a cue sheet (C) to a sequence window (F1 thru F10), a delay could occur because the Internet Explorer or MS Word might be trying to process the key stroke instead of CSDS. One unfixed bug within CSDS is that if you have an HTML cue sheet displayed, and you press F5 to display the corresponding sequence window, nothing appears to happen since F5 is the 'Refresh' hot key for the Internet Explorer.

    ID: 467
      
      
      
  20.  
    Timer doesn't beep
     
    I can't get the music timer to beep. Have looked at all the settings I can find in Vista and everything seems to be turned on. Any idea what I may be missing?

    The beep works on my Vista machine.

    Try going to Control Panel | Sound | Playback | Speakers | Levels | PC Beep.

    last modified: 25-May-2011   ID: 721
      
      
      
  21.  
    Timer expiration
     
    It would be nice if when the timer expired to end the break that it could kickoff the music player.....assuming the caller was smart enough to load the next record (or maybe a default record). That way it would notify everyone to start to square up (including notifying the caller to get back).

    From the CSDS main menu, select 'System | Settings...'. Select the 'Timer' tab. Under the 'Break timer' frame, you have options on what to do when the timer elapses.

    ID: 310
      
      
      
  22.  
    Too many frames
     
    I finally used CSDS to call a dance on Sunday, and got along with it pretty well. I set the dance up as 2 levels x 3 degrees of difficulty = 6 frames.

    Having all that on screen at once seemed excessive, so there may be a better way. I'll learn.

    I recommend setting up two dances, one for each level.

    Then change the dance when the level changes.

    This keeps the levels separate, so you don't accidently change to a frame with the wrong level.

    ID: 289
      
      
      

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