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1.
 Backup databases before an install? Do I need to backup any databases when I install an upgrade? I don't want to lose any music or setting for looping on hoedowns.

If you "re-install" (a.k.a., "upgrade"), you do NOT lose any database that YOU have entered. All of your sequences, music information, getouts, lists, snapshots, etc. are not touched. What is upgraded are: the program executable, help files, and MY database entries to the list, parse, getin, getout, and snapshot databases.

If you're paranoid, you can backup everything in the following folders, but there is no need just to do an upgrade:

1. C:\SQDATA\MUSIC [the music database];
2. C:\SQDATA\SEQ [the sequence databases];
3. C:\SQDATA\SQUSED [the dates database].

Occasionally you should back up these folders in case something catastrophic and unforeseen happens to your computer.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 161

2.
 bw6mp3b1.ocx When I opened the "CSDS Music Player" , I got the following error: "Run Time Error, Component 'bw6mp3b1.ocx' or one of it's dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid.".

This error message probably occurs because you upgraded the program using the 'executable only' release without first installing the 'complete' release. Amongst other things, the 'complete' release contains the file 'bw6mp3b1.ocx'.

At this point, you have two choices:

1. the quick fix is to download http://www.ceder.net/csds/ftp/bw6mp3b1.ocx into C:\SQDATA.
2. the long fix is to download and install the complete release, then install the executable only release.

last modified: 18-May-2006

ID: 388

3.
 Can't start install program - Bad command line I was unable to install the new version on my desktop from the internet download. I have installed previous versions of your program on my Compaq both from CD and from internet download. Would you have an idea why I can't do this one? I get an error message saying  "can't start install program" "Bad command line".  Formerly I had your program on my C drive and the last time I installed I put it on the D drive, would that make any difference? Or is it just some strange thing with the Compaq version of Windows?

If the setup package was downloaded from the internet, it could be that the download encountered problems and is corrupted, and hence the error message. In this case, the corrective action would be to download the setup package again. If, on the other hand, the setup package works on one computer but not another, you have a different problem.

If the setup package is 'good', then try the following:

1. Create a folder on the destination machine such as C:\NEW
2. Make sure that the name of the folder does not contain any spaces and has 8 or fewer characters in it's name.
3. Copy the setup package to the folder (C:\NEW).
4. If the setup package is complete.exe or partial.exe, then execute the program from the folder (i.e., in the file explorer, double-click on C:\NEW\complete.exe or C:\NEW\partial.exe). This will uncompress the file creating 3 files: CSDS.cab, setup.lst, and setup.exe.
5. Run setup.exe.

I hope this helps.

ID: 107

4.
 CD is labeled SQROT My installation CD is labeled SQROT. Is that the correct disc for calling? Will the installation be , just plug in? Is there a tutorial on the disc?

It is the correct disk. There are two installation programs on the CD:
1. CSDS (the Ceder Square Dance System) and
2. SQROT (the Square Rotation Program).

It is not an "autorun" CD. Place the CD in the drive, then use the Windows File Explorer to navigate to the CSDSxxx folder. Run the setup program from that folder.

A few help files are available via the CSDS program's main menu, 'Help | HTML Help Index'. These help files are also available online at http://www.ceder.net/csds/help/csds_index.html

last modified: 26-July-2008

ID: 568

5.
 Copying CSDS from one computer to another I need to copy CSDS from one computer to another. I'm thinking there might be an easier way than to install CSDS from my original CD and then go in and run several updates to get the latest version. I will be networking the two together via a hub - but don't know how to transfer or copy files from one to the other yet or which ones I would need to "grab" and drag over without leaving anything out or losing it from my PC. My instincts would be to just grab the entire CSDS folder and copy it - is it that easy ?

To copy everything over, copy the entire CSDS installation folder (usually C:\SQDATA) to the new computer.

However... this will not install some necessary system files.

I suggest the following:

1. install some version of CSDS on the new computer.
2. run CSDS on that computer so it can initialize files and registry settings.
3. copy the entire CSDS installation folder (C:\SQDATA) from the old computer to the new computer.

last modified: 14-February-2020

ID: 252

6.
 cscmd32.ocx I purchased the CSDS/SQROT CD from you over a year ago. My computer was recently stolen, and I am now trying to install the program back on my new computer. I am running Windows XP Home version. During the installation, I keep getting the following error message: An error occurred while registering the file C:\WINDOWS\system32\cscmd32.ocx The options are to abort, retry or ignore. Retry does nothing, abort obviously doesn't get the program installed, and ignore allows installation to finish, and I get a message that it has installed successfully, but then the program won't run. When I try to run the program, I get the error message: Component 'cscmd32.ocx' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid Any suggestions?

The problem is that Microsoft made a change to Windows XP Service Pack 2 that causes the CSDS component cscmd32.ocx to not work.

This problem was fixed a long time ago.

Please get and install the latest 'complete release'. Do not use your old installation CD.

The latest version of CSDS can be obtained via http://www.ceder.net/csds/csds_ftp.php

last modified: 14-August-2006

ID: 606

7.
 Install CSDS before receiving installation CD If you gave me my "key" couldn't I download the CSDS software and get started right away? (Still want the CD, of course)

If you wish to install and run CSDS before your CD arrives...

1. Goto http://www.ceder.net/csds/csds_ftp.php
2. Download and install the 'Complete' release;
3. Goto http://www.ceder.net/csds/csds_ftp.php
4. Download and install the 'Executable Only' release - be sure to follow the instructions precisely.
5. Goto http://www.ceder.net/csds/ftp/
6. Click on 'userinfo.dat', save to C:\SQDATA
7. Run CSDS
8. Enter your user key

Steps 3 and 4 are optional, if you re-install when you get your CD, since it only gives you a one-version upgrade.

last modified: 01-November-2009

ID: 709

8.
 Install CSDS on Portable Thumb Drive Please send me info on using CSDS from a USB key (thumb drive)

This procedure is for existing CSDS users.

1. Copy your existing CSDS folder (usually C:\SQDATA) to the portable drive (say to folder P:\SQDATA).
2. Download the latest CAB file from http://www.ceder.net/csds/ftp/ (select file csds13104.cab). Save it on your portable drive (in folder P:\SQDATA as above).
3. Right-click on the CAB file, and select 'Open' Copy all files from the CAB file to the portable drive (in P:\SQDATA).
4. These files are unnecessary in P:\SQDATA, and can be deleted:
ST6UNST.EXE
setup1.exe
5. Run P:\SQDATA\CSDS.EXE
6. From the CSDS main menu, select 'System | Settings | Miscellaneous'. Check the 'Run CSDS from portable drive' checkbox.
7. Close CSDS. This creates file P:\SQDATA\CSDS_PORTABLE.INI.
8. These files in P:\SQDATA can either be deleted, or moved to P:\SQDATA\definitions
CsdsActiveX.CAB
CsdsActiveX.HTM
csds.css
WebDef.dat
WebDef.inx
DEF.MDB
9. These files in P:\SQDATA can either be deleted, or moved to P:\SQDATA\definitions\icon
icon_def.gif
10. These files in P:\SQDATA can either be deleted, or moved to P:\SQDATA\definitions\images
cederchesta1.gif
cederchestc1.gif
cederchestc3.gif
cederchestgeneric.gif
11. Delete the CAB file.

last modified: 19-May-2010

ID: 710

9.
 Installing CSDS on both a desktop and a laptop I was wondering if I may install a copy of CSDS on my new laptop as well as the one on my desktop machine. If so, how do I get the most recent version onto the laptop?

You may install CSDS on as many machines as you'd like. All I ask is that you be the only one who uses it.

Do one of the following:

1. Download the complete release from the web and install it.
2. Use your installation CD to install an old version, then download the executable only release from the web.
3. Request me to mail you a new installation CD (for a \$25 fee).

ID: 232

10.
 Installing CSDS on multiple machines I'm now starting to work on 2 machines. I got a big fast system for home, and will use the laptop for calling & travel only. I need some guidance on moving CSDS database files (sequences, dances, ...) between the two systems. Is it as simple as copying them over?

Yes. Copying them over is what I do. If you have a big enough drive (e.g., a Zip drive), this is no problem.

I have CSDS installed on several machines. I designate one machine as the master machine (my home desktop), on which I make sure to have all updates. My laptops, work machine, and Debbie's machine get copies of files from the master machine. If I make a change on a non-master machine (e.g., a laptop), I make sure that either I make the same change on the desktop or I import the changes from the laptop.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 246

11.
 Installing via USB Our new laptop does not have a CD or floppy drive. Can we install CSDS on our desktop, and then transfer the whole thing via the USB port cable to our laptop, or must installation be done via an external CD drive?

You must run the CSDS setup.exe program on the laptop.

The CSDS installation consists of the three files supplied on the CD: setup.exe, setup.lst, and CSDS.cab.

Copy these three files to the laptop using your USB cable, run setup.exe, then delete the three files.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 212

12.
 Is CSDS safe to install on my computer? Is CSDS safe to install on my computer? What does it do with DLL's, etc. which are newer than what it has?

Installation of CSDS and SQROT are 'basically safe'. I can't guarantee that it won't mess up your computer, however. These are 'Windows' machines as you well know. :-)

CSDS uses the installation program that comes with VB6. This setup program checks the version numbers of DLLs before installing DLLs. If your machine has a 'later' version of a DLL, a dialog box appears asking whether to 'keep your version?'.

I use a XP machine to generate the releases for SQROT and CSDS.

I've found that XP is a lot smarter than other MS Windows systems, and able to recover better from DLL HELL. I've discovered that if you deliberately overwrite a required system DLL with a previous version, XP will fix it the next time it boots.

ID: 338

13.
 Keep existing versions? During installation, the following files were not newer than mine. Riched32.dll Msvcirt.dll Msdxm.ocx So I kept my version. What do you recommend?

You should always keep your existing version (i.e., press "Y")

last modified: 19-May-2006

ID: 509

14.
 MSDXM.OCX I got an error message while installing the update, even after rebooting and re-installation:  Error registering OCX c:\windows\system MSDXM.OCX I found that file in that location. Anything I can/should do about it?

Ignore the error message.

MSDXM.OCX is the Microsoft Windows Media Player Control.

There are different versions of the player for different Windows operating systems. The error message probably occurs because your existing MSDXM.OCX file is better for your system than the one that the installation program is trying to install.

If you encounter any problems with the Media Player, download the latest version applicable to your system from the Microsoft web site.

ID: 91

15.
 mshtml.tlb While trying to install CSDS on Windows XP with SP2, I get the following error: An error occurred while registering file C:\WINNT\System32\mshtml.tlb

Ignore this message. The file (mshtml.tlb) should not have been included as part of the release. Adding this file to your system will have no effect. If you want, you may manually delete the file.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 571

16.
 Re-installing CSDS My laptop has completely crashed and they are installing a new hard drive. The problem is that I canÂ't remember if there was anything special that I need to reinstall the CSDS program on the new hard drive. Can you help?

CSDS needs to be installed from our setup.exe program. This program is included on the CSDS installation CD. You can also download the complete installation from our web site.

Go to http://www.ceder.net/csds/csds_ftp.php and download and install the latest 'Complete Release'. Follow the instructions on the page.

ID: 302

17.
 SYSINFO.OCX I downloaded and ran the latest csdszip.exe from 02Apr. When I try to run the CSDS program, I get the error message "SYSINFO.OCX or one of its dependencies not currently registered: a file is missing or invalid."

The above error probably occurred because you installed CSDS version 0.99.xx onto a CSDS version earlier than 0.99.00. You must first install the 'Partial Release' which upgrades and installs the necessary system files (one of which is SYSINFO.OCX).

The 'Partial Release' installs SYSINFO.OCX and other system files in the windows system directory (e.g., c:winntsystem32 or c:windowssystem32).

After installing the partial release, re-install the 'Executable Only' release (csdszip.exe).

ID: 97

18.
 Transfer files from desktop to laptop Can I transfer CSDS to my laptop by copying files from my computer? My laptop does not have a CD drive.

To copy CSDS onto a laptop without a CD drive:
1. Create a temporary folder on the laptop
2. Load the CD on a computer with a CD drive and copy all files from the installation folder (usually D:\CSDSxxxx, where xxxx is the version number) onto floppies or a USB key (thumb drive).
3. Copy the files from the floppies (or USB key) into the temporary folder on the laptop.
4. Run the setup program from the temporary folder on the laptop.
5. Delete the temporary folder.

You can not just copy the program folder (usually C:\SQDATA) to the laptop because several system files need to be installed and registered.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 26

19.
 User ID File Does Not Exist I completed the installation, and created the icon on my desktop. When I clicked on the CSDS icon, however, I was not prompted to enter the 14-character user key. Instead I got a dialog box that says:  FATAL ERROR User ID File Does Not Exist C:\SQDATA\USERINFO.DAT 

The program can not find the required file userinfo.dat.

There are (at least) 3 reasons why this error message may occur:

1. For versions of CSDS older than 1.00.02, this message occurs if your system is missing file scrrun.dll, which is usually located in folder c:\windows\system or c:\windows\system32. To fix the problem, get a copy of scrrun.dll and copy it to one of the system folders mentioned above.

If you have a copy of scrrun.dll and still receive this error message, send me an E-mail message, and I'll send you the userinfo.dat file via an E-mail attachment.

File userinfo.dat should be placed in the CSDS installation folder (usually C:\SQDATA).

2. The shortcut to the CSDS program was created incorrectly.
The shortcut must have a command line similar to the following:

c:\sqdata\csds.exe dir=c:\sqdata

in which the program pathname is specified followed by dir= and the pathname of the CSDS data folder.

If you installed the program in d:\program files\csds, then the line must look like:

d:\program files\csds\csds.exe dir="c:\program files\csds"

Note: if the folder pathname contains spaces, enclose the entire folder pathname in double-quotes (")
3. The program (or upgrade to the program) was installed incorrectly.

Check the pathname listed in the error message. The pathname should usually either be C:\SQDATA\USERINFO.DAT or C:\Program Files\CSDS\USERINFO.DAT. If the pathname is something else (e.g., C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP\USERINFO.DAT) then you've probably incorrectly installed the program.

If you've downloaded the "executable only" release from the web, copy the downloaded file, csdszip.exe, into C:\SQDATA (or wherever it is that you've placed CSDS), then run csdszip from that location. There should already be a 'Userinfo.dat' file in that folder.

You probably need to clean up the stuff on your desktop. For example, the CSDS icon may need to be deleted and re-created.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 98

20.
 Windows 3.1 Can CSDS be installed onto my Windows 3.1 laptop?

No. CSDS requires a 32-bit operating system such as Windows 95, 98, ME, NT 4.0, XP, 2000, or Vista.

last modified: 06-January-2008

ID: 25

21.
 "Program Files" folder Can CSDS be installed in the "Program Files" folder rather C:\SQDATA?

Yes. CSDS can be installed in whatever folder you want.

However... All of the CSDS documentation assumes that the program has been installed in C:\SQDATA.

last modified: 25-May-2011

ID: 27

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